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title: "Is Xiangqi Older Than Western Chess? · Xiangqi Master"
description: "Modern xiangqi was in place by the Song dynasty; modern chess, with its powerful queen and bishop, took shape in Europe centuries later."
url: https://xiangqimaster.com/blog/is-xiangqi-older-than-western-chess
updated: 2026-09-30
source: Xiangqi Master (https://xiangqimaster.com)
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# Is xiangqi older than western chess?

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> In their **modern forms, yes**. Xiangqi as played today had taken shape by the Song dynasty (960–1279), while western chess got its modern queen and bishop moves in Europe **in the late fifteenth century**. But both games have older ancestors, and which of those came first, and how they were related, is **debated**.

## Comparing like with like

The question depends on what counts as "the game". If you mean the rules people play today, modern xiangqi is older: its river, palaces and cannons are described in the Song period, while the chess queen was still a weak, one-step piece in Europe until the late 1400s. If you mean the earliest ancestor of each game, the answer is much less clear.

## Why the ancestors are hard to compare

Western chess descends, through Persian and Arabic versions, from the Indian game chaturanga, which is usually dated to around the sixth century. Games called 象棋 are mentioned in Chinese sources, but what those earlier games looked like is uncertain, and whether modern xiangqi descends from them, from chaturanga, or from a mixture is disputed. See [how historians date xiangqi](https://xiangqimaster.com/blog/how-do-historians-date-the-origins-of-xiangqi) and [chaturanga and xiangqi](https://xiangqimaster.com/blog/how-is-chaturanga-different-from-xiangqi).

## Claims to be wary of

Statements that xiangqi is several thousand years old, or that it is definitely the ancestor of chess, go beyond what the sources show. The [history of xiangqi](https://xiangqimaster.com/history-of-xiangqi) page keeps to what the evidence supports.

## Related questions

Is xiangqi the ancestor of chess?

There is no good evidence for that. The mainstream view traces chess to chaturanga; xiangqi's relationship to chaturanga is itself debated.

Did either game influence the other later?

Not in any documented way before modern times. They developed separately in their own regions.

## Related xiangqi resources

History of xiangqi

When the game was invented, and what is actually documented

Xiangqi vs chess

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